Comments on: Why Give Obama a Second Term? http://floridaagenda.com/2011/09/21/why-give-obama-a-second-term/ Florida Agenda Your Gay, Lesbian, Bisexual & Transgender News and Entertainment Resource Sun, 19 Oct 2014 01:49:51 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.8.4 By: magelan http://floridaagenda.com/2011/09/21/why-give-obama-a-second-term/comment-page-1/#comment-17734 Sat, 04 Feb 2012 23:38:37 +0000 http://floridaagenda.com/?p=9316#comment-17734 OMG!David R. Kamerschen, Ph.D.
Professor of Economics.
Don’t you suppose maybe beer should be taxed higher/ the richest ones will drink the most . The poorest won’t have any money to drink one.The analogy of THE TAX SYSTEM EXPLAINED IN BEER seems intoxicating.I don’t drink so I would be classified as the poor,although my income is enough whereas;I pay a chunk of taxes. I am a smoker ,My taxes goes towards providing the assistance of (SCHIP). On February 4, 2009, the Children’s Health Insurance Program Reauthorization Act of 2009 was signed into law, which raised the federal tax rate for cigarettes on April 1, 2009 from $0.39 per pack to $1.01 per pack.[6][7] The purpose of the State Children’s Health Insurance Program (SCHIP) is to provide aid for impoverished children. With the increased revenue from tobacco taxes SCHIP can now afford to include families with up to three times the federal poverty level as well as children from high-income families in New York and New Jersey. SCHIP will also be able to cover dental benefits and treatment of mental illnesses where it previously could not. In addition to providing these services for U.S. citizens, SCHIP is also expanded to cover immigrant children and immigrant pregnant women.

Even though this bill taxed smokers in order to fund a children’s health program, President Barack Obama received both criticism and support for signing this act.
Now figure a tax rate for smoker’s.

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By: Jason http://floridaagenda.com/2011/09/21/why-give-obama-a-second-term/comment-page-1/#comment-17731 Sat, 04 Feb 2012 22:02:05 +0000 http://floridaagenda.com/?p=9316#comment-17731 While the piece was well-written and had me going, the anti-NAFTA and anti-Citizens United stuff really turned me off. Sorry, not going to go back on those two things.

Sanders’ five points seem pretty reasonable though.

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By: Kelly Jacobs http://floridaagenda.com/2011/09/21/why-give-obama-a-second-term/comment-page-1/#comment-17730 Sat, 04 Feb 2012 21:42:20 +0000 http://floridaagenda.com/?p=9316#comment-17730 Thanks for the analysis David. You obviously took a long look at the facts and lined them up in your blog. ]]> By: Carrie http://floridaagenda.com/2011/09/21/why-give-obama-a-second-term/comment-page-1/#comment-15694 Sat, 10 Dec 2011 05:02:41 +0000 http://floridaagenda.com/?p=9316#comment-15694 Seriously Lea? You really think the economy was prospering under Bush? Under Bush wages for most people went down. Under Bush the housing bubble was being blown up bigger and bigger. Under Bush, the financial industry – using products it made up out of thin air and then sold and insured – accounted for almost half of our economy. So it seemed like the economy was doing well to uninformed voters. Sadly, as you have proven, there are many in the U.S. ]]> By: Lea http://floridaagenda.com/2011/09/21/why-give-obama-a-second-term/comment-page-1/#comment-15371 Mon, 05 Dec 2011 00:53:36 +0000 http://floridaagenda.com/?p=9316#comment-15371 Barack Obama is going on vacation.

Hold the presses. Obama is taking a vacation!

For millions of Americans, the reaction is, “Must be nice.”

Obama is heading to Hawaii from December 17 to January 2. He is spending his days at a beachfront house that costs $3500 a day to rent. Obama is allegedly paying that out of his own pocket.

Unfortunately, the rest of the trip is costing Americans millions. There is the cost of Air Force One to carry him out there. There are the costs for protecting Obama. There are the costs of moving the huge number of staffers out to Hawaii and to house them at hotels that often run hundreds of dollars a night, per room.

When we conservatives mention Obama and his frequent vacations, liberals will pipe up with, “Well you didn’t complain when George Bush took vacations.

You know, we did not complain when George Bush took vacations. When he took his vacations, he generally returned to his ranch in Crawford Texas.

But the real issue is, when George Bush was taking his vacations down to Crawford, unemployment was below 5%. When George Bush was taking his vacations, the economy was growing new jobs at a record pace. When George Bush took his vacations the country was prospering.

All Barack Obama wants to do is complain. The economic policies of Obama, Pelosi and Reid have wrecked the economy. Of course, that was their goal to begin with.

Today, millions are out of work. Millions more are underemployed. The unemployment figures for last month went down. They did not go down because more people were working. They went down because more people have given up on finding work. The economy is in what can only be called the Great Obama Depression.

Obama feels entitled to take vacations on our dime. He took an 11-day vacation to Martha’s Vineyard earlier this year. Because it was inconvenient, he and Michelle took separate planes to their vacation hotspot. The cost, picked up by the taxpayers. Then there was the African safari Michelle and her daughters went on, with the tab picked up by the taxpayer. Don’t forget their high end, girls’ getaway to Spain last year.

Thanks to the Obama economy, not only are millions of Americans out of work, millions more can only dream of a vacation.

Obama is not a leader. Leaders lead by example.

If Obama had any sympathy for real Americans, he would not go to Hawaii for his vacation. He would get on TV and announce in this time of a terrible economy, in order to save the country money, he would stay at the White House for Christmas. That move would save Americans millions of dollars.

But Obama does not care about Americans. He is your typical arrogant liberal politician who believes Americans exist only to pay taxes so he cannot only be reelected but so he can do what he wants.

The good news here is that a year from now, Obama will be taking his final vacation from the White House.

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By: Lea http://floridaagenda.com/2011/09/21/why-give-obama-a-second-term/comment-page-1/#comment-15370 Mon, 05 Dec 2011 00:46:19 +0000 http://floridaagenda.com/?p=9316#comment-15370 THE TAX SYSTEM EXPLAINED IN BEER

Suppose that every day, ten men go out for beer and the bill for all ten comes to $100.
If they paid their bill the way we pay our taxes, it would go something like this…

The first four men (the poorest) would pay nothing
The fifth would pay $1
The sixth would pay $3
The seventh would pay $7
The eighth would pay $12
The ninth would pay $18
The tenth man (the richest) would pay $59

So, that’s what they decided to do.

The ten men drank in the bar every day and seemed quite happy with the arrangement, until one day, the owner threw them a curve ball. “Since you are all such good customers,” he said, “I’m going to reduce the cost of your daily beer by $20″. Drinks for the ten men would now cost just $80.

The group still wanted to pay their bill the way we pay our taxes. So the first four men were unaffected. They would still drink for free. But what about the other six men ? How could they divide the $20 windfall so that everyone would get his fair share?

They realized that $20 divided by six is $3.33. But if they subtracted that from everybody’s share, then the fifth man and the sixth man would each end up being paid to drink his beer.

So, the bar owner suggested that it would be fair to reduce each man’s bill by a higher percentage the poorer he was, to follow the principle of the tax system they had been using, and he proceeded to work out the amounts he suggested that each should now pay.

And so the fifth man, like the first four, now paid nothing (100% saving).
The sixth now paid $2 instead of $3 (33% saving).
The seventh now paid $5 instead of $7 (28% saving).
The eighth now paid $9 instead of $12 (25% saving).
The ninth now paid $14 instead of $18 (22% saving).
The tenth now paid $49 instead of $59 (16% saving).

Each of the six was better off than before. And the first four continued to drink for free. But, once outside the bar, the men began to compare their savings.

“I only got a dollar out of the $20 saving,” declared the sixth man. He pointed to the tenth man, “but he got $10!”

“Yeah, that’s right,” exclaimed the fifth man. “I only saved a dollar too. It’s unfair that he got ten times more benefit than me!”

“That’s true!” shouted the seventh man. “Why should he get $10 back, when I got only $2? The wealthy get all the breaks!”

“Wait a minute,” yelled the first four men in unison, “we didn’t get anything at all. This new tax system exploits the poor!”

The nine men surrounded the tenth and beat him up.

The next night the tenth man didn’t show up for drinks so the nine sat down and had their beers without him. But when it came time to pay the bill, they discovered something important. They didn’t have enough money between all of them for even half of the bill!

And that, boys and girls, journalists and government ministers, is how our tax system works. The people who already pay the highest taxes will naturally get the most benefit from a tax reduction. Tax them too much, attack them for being wealthy, and they just may not show up anymore. In fact, they might start drinking overseas, where the atmosphere is somewhat friendlier.

David R. Kamerschen, Ph.D.
Professor of Economics.

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By: James S. Capone http://floridaagenda.com/2011/09/21/why-give-obama-a-second-term/comment-page-1/#comment-13433 Thu, 13 Oct 2011 04:05:55 +0000 http://floridaagenda.com/?p=9316#comment-13433 David, I just finished reading your piece. It was honestly awesome to read. It was well thought out and very well stated. I agree with 99.99% of it. We do need to get back to fundamentals and to me that means first, foremost and # 1 – getting rid of the Federal Reserve (we can print and fund our own money – we don’t need to borrow from them only to have to pay them back double for it!!), we need to make corporate lobbying illegal and to any politician that takes that money – punishable by death!!! We need all our regulations back and then some. We truly need to get lawyers out of politics and all laws need to be applicable to all or no one and easily understood by all!!! I agree there isn’t a republican out there that will get this job done for us, but I just don’t believe Barack Obama will either, I just don’t. The guy that can get that done for us is the guy I want to elect in!!! I hate having to elect “the lesser of two evils”!!!!!!!! (isn’t that right Paul! … ? because that’s what you stated ” Stack’s piece paints the broader picture that it is not just about our disappointment but about what will happen if he loses this election to Romney or Perry.” Barack Obama will only be the lesser of two evils! ]]> By: Paul M Smith http://floridaagenda.com/2011/09/21/why-give-obama-a-second-term/comment-page-1/#comment-13155 Thu, 29 Sep 2011 16:31:47 +0000 http://floridaagenda.com/?p=9316#comment-13155 I read the opinion piece by David Stack, “Why Give Obama a Second Term? And he is right on. I hope it is read carefully and will stimulate as many people as possible. His analysis was careful and factually correct and it really needs to sink in. So many of my friends are quite disillusioned with the President and their natural impulse is to “throw the baby out with the bathwater” or worse, to simply disengage. Stack’s piece paints the broader picture that it is not just about our disappointment but about what will happen if he loses this election to Romney or Perry. To let the Republicans back in would be disastrous on so many levels. Future SCOTUS appointments are only the beginning of how the right-wing power shift would manifest itself in a democracy. My greatest fear is that the Democrats, Independents, moderate Republicans and all those who got behind Obama in 2008 will not be energized enough to make the same thrust for 2012 where it will be needed even more. Regardless of their rationale, they ask themselves “Why should I, Obama has not delivered or fought as hard as I had hoped?” What they don’t realize is that it’s not as much about Obama as it is about YOU and ME and the future of this country. It hasn’t hit home yet that the consequences of Obama losing are dire. We must get folks energized again and I don’t see it happening yet. ]]>